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Vass ([personal profile] vass) wrote2010-09-20 07:34 pm

Why I hate male geeks

I can't wear ThinkGeek's men's t-shirts. The necks are too small, and they fit really weirdly for someone with breasts.

According to ThinkGeek's sizing info, their largest women's tee, an XXL, has a bust size of 18 inches. Double that to get a maximum bust size of 36 inches, or 91.44cm. They advertise this as a US women's 16/18. They say in so many words that their women's t-shirts are a UK 18/20.

Here is Target Australia's sizing chart. Notice that 91.44cm is not quite a size 12. Remember that Australian/British sizes typically run 1-2 sizes smaller than US sizes? Not quite a size 12. For their XXL. And Target's sizes don't run small.

Also: it is fucking degrading that the women's shirts at ThinkGeek include clothing for girlfriends of geeks rather than actual geek attire. The obvious target consumer is a male geek who wants to display his female partner in it. It just further relegates women to the position of groupies, not real geeks in our own right. And why is it that the women's I Void Warrantees shirt (a shirt which I would be purchasing otherwise - oh wait, the largest shirt is less than half my size) mentions knitting, where the men's equivalent does not? Don't male geeks knit? Who says all female tinkerers do?
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2010-09-20 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.thinkgeek.com/help/sizing-info.shtml

I have never actually seen a size 4 or 6 in a UK shop.

Also, trying to cross-compare their adult sizes and kids' size charts strongly suggests that (unless I'm badly confused) their women's Small is equivalent to "4-5 years".
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[personal profile] dzurlady 2010-09-20 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
...that's so wrong, I am actively creeped out.
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[personal profile] moem 2010-09-20 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
You know what? You're right. As equalitarian as they think they are, they really aren't.

I <3 my geek boyfriend, but I, too, hate the attitude you described.
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[personal profile] lilacsigil 2010-09-20 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
All the funky t-shirt stores seem to have really odd sizing (a Cafe Press 3x, for example, fits my bust and waist nicely but is short enough to show skin) but that's got to be a record.
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[personal profile] derryderrydown 2010-09-20 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
I've just noticed that the smallest men's size has the same chest measurement as the largest women's size. Despite the fact that the women's has to accommodate boobs.
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[personal profile] sebastienne 2010-09-20 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
I've noticed that on most online t-shirt retailers, to be honest; my assumption was that the women's sizes were meant to be that stretchy, "babydoll" fit, so that the size of the garment was not the same as the size of the woman it was meant to fit. Of course, when I bought some t-shirts on that assumption, I found that a)the arm and neck holes were far too small and b) the stretching caused the design to look ridiculous.

Perhaps what they need is a parody site pointing all this fail out, called "Think, Geek"?
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2010-09-20 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG YES THEY DO.
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[personal profile] dzurlady 2010-09-20 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Women's large sizes are always so tiny, it's very frustrating. This is another level of horrible though.

The other day I was looking at A-league (Aust soccer league) clothing, and they had 'Supporter wear' and 'Ladies and children' wear categories. No lie, I was looking through children's clothing to find the women's shirts. And this is a sport that is desperately trying to recruit new supporters! WTH.
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[personal profile] laurenmitchell 2010-09-20 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. I've never had a problem with TG's men's tees. The necks can be a bit weird, but then I have interesting issues with tee necks anyway if they're too tight. I've got a couple of them and they're all fine, except for the part where I have them in 2XL and that's too big for me (this is what I get for buying them off Goldie instead of through the site).

I've got the 'huge tracts of land' in an XL and that fits my 125 cm bust, or at least it did the last time I wore it, but I'd like to rebuy it in an XXL because the lettering is starting to stretch a little (ironically enough).

By contrast, Target's size 20, which is meant for a 120 cm bust, is currently hanging off me just enough to be slightly bra-exposing. Also, tut tut Target sizing, it's 'Moda' now, not 'Options Plus'. Silly site. (According to those measurements I should be a 22. I'm a 20 in some things and an 18 in others. A 22 would hang off me and expose mucho boobage. Fun as that might be for onlookers, I don't think so.

I think it's the fault of whoever's written the copy for the site rather than male geeks in general. I know several male geeks who I love who'd be pretty WTF about this.
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2010-09-20 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this is why I pretty much keep trying to stick to a commitment not to buy from think geek anymore, although it doesn't work very well when the holidays roll around. And then they made their fancy new Ada Lovelace T-shirts, and I admit I would like one, but not as much as I want them to stop selling girlfriend T-shirts.